Grand Prix Armistice 2003

Je m'avance un peu... car la régate est programmée du 31 octobre au 2 novembre.

Mais bon, l'avis de cours est dors et déjà en ligne. Toujours à la même adresse : fl45.free.fr/frames/avisCourse.htm

Voilà...

T'es sûr? j'ai l'imression que la case est vide :...mais bon, y'a le temps !

C'st bon...

Moi pas être doué parfois !! Moi oublier placer fichier.. :

Les IntMoth sont- ils admis?

On va faire en sorte...
C'est un skiff quelque part et ça nous aidera à grossir nos rangs... L'année prochaîne on mettra un beau calendrier au point... ! Il y a aussi les Canoë Inter a ramené avec nous.

Sympa

c quoi d'ailleurs le rating d'un int moth ???

c quoi d'ailleurs le rating d'un int moth ???

Sais pas
j'ai vu l'adresse d'un site sur le forum ou yavait marqué les rating des différents dériveurs mais il n'y avait pas le moth

On peut peut être trouver quelque chose sur le site de la FFV:
www.ffvoile.org

Bon on va essayé d'envoyer un B14 dans le sud
Il me reste juste à poser des vacances, a trouver un équipier et à vérifier si le bateau flotte toujours malgré la poussière.
Aucun problème insurmontable

Sais pas
j'ai vu l'adresse d'un site sur le forum ou yavait marqué les rating des différents dériveurs mais il n'y avait pas le moth

Bonjour,

Actuellement PY 1000. J'ai vu le rating francais quelque part, mais je ne sais pas où. Je vous l'envoie si je le retrouve.

L'article qui suit donne un peu l'histoire des dernières années, et de l'évolution constante de notre rating. Notez bien que ce rating est le même que des bateaux performants et qui sont une fois et demie plus long que nous !

Qui dit mieux ?


PY Numbers for International Moths Competing in Handicap Races

Over the last twenty five years the International Moth has developed from a boat that in 1980 was racing on level terms with an Enterprise to a narrow, ultra lightweight skiff almost as fast as a Contender on handicap. Good Moth sailors in modern boats have no difficulty sometimes beating Fireballs and similar boats on the water. It is discouraging for the owner of, for instance, a Magnum 8 to be expected to race in a club fleet off the same handicap as the latest design of modern Moth. Back in 1988 when the Magnum 8 was the fastest design of Moth it had a Portsmouth Yardstick correctly handicapping it just a little faster than a Laser. The RYA list of PY numbers carries a footnote that reads ‘with Development classes where the Portsmouth Number is likely to vary depending on the age and design of the boats, clubs should consider adjusting the Number where it does not reflect the performance of a particular boat (excluding crew skill factor)’. This adjustment does not always take place because the Moth sailor in an old design of boat cannot provide any evidence of what the handicap PY Number of his or her boat was at the time it was designed. A complicating factor is the change in 1996 to PY numbers based on 1000 rather than 100, with no obvious way of converting from old numbers to new. This statement by the IMCA(UK) aims to provide an authoritative set of recommendations for the PY number to use with older boats, plus some argument to back up the proposed Numbers.

Throughout the 1980s the Magnum designs of Moth were the all-conquering, state of the art boats at that time. Probably few Magnum 3 or 4 Moths are still being raced, but in 1982 their PY was the same as an Enterprise and an OK. Today these boats have PYs of 1116 or recently, 1111 in the case of the OK. It would thus be reasonable to give a Magnum 3 a PY of 1115. By 1985 the Magnum 5 had become a slightly faster boat than the Magnum 3 and its handicap was now the same as a Wayfarer, 1099 today. The development of the Magnum 8 was a major step forward and the Moth moved from being slower than a Laser to somewhat faster, about the speed of a Scorpion, nearly that of a Phantom and marginally faster than a Lark or an Albacore. Compared with the PY Numbers for these boats it suggests a PY of about 1060 for a Magnum 8. By the early 1990s Moth development had taken a quantum leap forward with the first generation of significantly narrower boats and the advent of carbon masts. Moths such as the Magnum 9, Pearce 6, Blitz and early Axeman designes proved to be comparable in speed to the Tasar, the Laser11, and the Merlin Rocket, all of which have current, PY Numbers between 1021 and 1024. However in 1992 the Kestrel and the Marauder raced off the same handicap though they now have numbers between 1034 and 1042. Hence this generation of Moth might be handicapped fairly with a Number set at 1020, assuming they now have modern T foils, not available when these boats first hit the water. Finally, by 1995 the modern generation of narrow ultra lightweight skiff Moths with T foil rudders had begun to establish themselves as the fastest designs such as the Skippy1, the Magnum 9.9, the Axeman 6 and 7 or even more recently, the world beating, Australian Hungry Tiger. It is these Moths for which their current PY Number of 1000 is appropriate. Hence in Summary the following recommendations can be made:

PY 1000
Hungry Tiger, Axeman 6 and 7, Skippy 1,2 and 3, Magnum 9.9 plus any other designs first built after 1995.

PY 1020
Magnum 9 and 9.5, Axeman 2 to5, Pearce 6, Blitz 2 to 3, Australian Axeman and equivalent designs first built between 1989 and 1995 such as the Ghoul 3.

PY 1060
Magnum 8, Axeman 1, Blitz1, Ghoul 1 and 2, and Gentleman Jim

PY 1100
Magnum 5 and 6

PY 1115
Magnum 3 and 4 and any other designs of Moth still racing built in the early 1980s or before.

Ca y est.

Merci le site FFVoile.


BUZZ
14,5
0,7583

FIREBALL 14,5
0,7583

CONTENDER 14,5
0,7583

International Moth 14,5
0,7583

LASER EPS 14,5
0,7583

Faisons les comptes : qui sera présent à l'Armistice et sur quel bateau ?

les Thouvenin / Thouvenin seront là, en 29er

Nous en 4OOO

Clément devrait venir en ISO

François de Toulouse en 29er

A priori on sera là en 29er.

Nicolas Honor de Laser France sera là en 4000
Florence également je pense en 4000
Guillaume Serey aussi également en 4000.

Normalement nous serons là en Laser 5000.

Nous sommes contents de rencontrer enfin les gens qui écrivent sur ce forum.

Serai pas la ... c'est un peu trop loin pour moi :'(

Moi ce que ej dis c'est que je viendrais bien mais bon je n'ai quasiment pas d'expérience sur skiff et en plus je n'ai pas posé de vacances ou de Reuteuteu le vendredi.

Bon donc ca me semble mal engagé. :'( :'( :'(